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— While I'm working on you,

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if there are some places
where I'm going too deeply,

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you just let me know.

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If it's bringing things up
for you, you let me know.

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— Yeah.

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You're actually in control,

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although I'd like to think I am.

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I believe healing was always around us,

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no matter what age we were.

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I don't know how we understand it,

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but we lived it.

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Feel that one?

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— That one's okay.
— Yeah?

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Even though it's holding?

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— That's fine.
— Yeah. Cool.

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I don't know how we knew,

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but we just followed the examples.

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Breathe.

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As a young child,
I can remember being told

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to put my hand on certain people

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and leave it in a certain space,

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and then they would say, "Oh,
I can feel it coming through."

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Whatever guidance that was,

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it was just knowing.

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You alright?
— Mhm.

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Au I tunei.
My name is Atarangi.

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My first trauma, if you like,

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was in the womb.

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When my mother was trying to birth me,

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it was a very difficult birth for her.

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And it was my grandmother,

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who helped me
come through into this world.

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Through her,

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that is the reason why I do what I do.

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No, no. Come, come, come.

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You are so beautiful pregnant.

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— Hi! Yes, I'm still pregnant.

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— So beautifully!

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— Kia ora.

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— Kia ora.

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Oh!

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— I don't know, everything just-

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I'm just like something happened.

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— Um, I need, Manuka,

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can I have a roll up, please?

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I already know, prior to
who's coming to the house,

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why they're coming.

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If they're coming with their ancestors,

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whether they have trauma in the womb,

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that all comes to me prior

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to people arriving.

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Just gonna give a bit of a nudge.

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Right there! That's...shoulder.

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— Yeah, I can feel the head
moving when you do that.

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— Yeah.

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I knew at 3 o'clock this morning,

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this baby was out of alignment,

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and my tummy was very painful on the left.

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That's how it comes to me.

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They come in my body.

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I get body-pain, severely.

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It's this side, eh?

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Patient: Yeah, it's,
that's the sore side.

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Awhitia: Okay.

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Breathe.

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Kia ora.

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Ko Awhitia Mihaere toku ingoa,

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I am a descendant of Ngati Porou,
Ngati Kahungunu,

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television news,

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Tourists

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my mom's side.

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My father was with me
I am Maniapoto, Rangitaane.

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That's where you all belong.

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Our ancestral, traditional way

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is that we are not separate
from the environment.

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Because of colonization,
we have separated ourselves

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from that ideology,

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from that way of being.

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It's shown itself to have

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huge impact on Mother Earth,

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and Father Sky,

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and all the environmental
children in between.

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Nature is suffering
because of the behaviors of

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the youngest born in that line.

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When we disengage from the environment,

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people get lost in their own darkness.

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Take your Christian
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because I'm not talking about

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a religious thing.

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My God is that cloud drifting past,

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the grass is my God, the sea is my God.

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Feel more connected,

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not just to your human genealogy,

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but to your environmental genealogy.

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I grew up in this place,

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raised by my ancestors,

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by my grandparents,

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speaking my native tongue.

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Learning about all the genealogies

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and the histories of the Tairawhiti,

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which equipped me in me
life-journey as an artist

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and historian of education
Māori, Māori knowledge.

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Hello, my name is
Mark Kopua. Hello.

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When we talk about healing, it is Medicine.

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Remedy is about listening.

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The language has its own
vibration and frequency.

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The island was a place where

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those healers that we hear, those priests,

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that's where they were taught.

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That was where my grandmother was

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was taught the art of Medicine.

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You can hear the cicadas...

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But before we go in,
I'm just going to do a karakia for us,

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to give us permission to go in.

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That's who we are.

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Our job is to protect the nature.

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If we don't protect Te Taiao,

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Te Taiao won't protect us.

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It's in our genes because

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our great grandmother Te Horo,

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she was the healer of this whole area,

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and she was a blind queen.

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And she had a parrot that talked to her.

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And she was very powerful.

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During the epidemic flu that we had here

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that killed thousands of our people,

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most of them went to her
and she healed them.

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And then she taught my other
great grandmother then,

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so they started up teaching,

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those who wanted to learn.

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My grandmother inherited
that work of healing,

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and I was what they call,

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"the person that had to
go out and get the plants."

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So she taught me as I was growing up

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Ko taku ingoa ko Tohe Ahipi.

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— Growing up here, I realized,

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that I wanted to be involved in

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healing from our Indigenous perspective.

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And when I went home and spoke
to my elders about that,

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one of the aunties turned
around to me and said,

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"What do you want to do that for?

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Don't do that.
Go be a real doctor.

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That's where your future is."

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Ko Dona Kerridge ahau.

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I am of Māori and English descent,

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and I hail from a small community

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on the west coast of the North Island,

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Te Puaha o Waikato. Kia ora.

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All my aunts and uncles

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grew up in a time when it really wasn't

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the thing to be Māori.

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You know, they weren't
allowed to speak it at school.

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And worse than that,

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they were actually
chastised for speaking it.

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They suffered indignities that

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I don't really feel
comfortable talking about,

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because I don't think I can do justice.

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I can, I can feel

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the pain.

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And they didn't talk about it much.

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They didn't talk about it to us,

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but somehow we knew.

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— Notice how the Māori
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when they meet by pressing noses.

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This greeting is called the Hongi.

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Of course, they don't live
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— For centuries, the Māori of New Zealand,

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developed a distinctive culture.

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— When the British came,
everything changed.

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— This Māori boy is eating sunshine.

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He belongs to one of
the proudest races on Earth.

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— For the first time in history,

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a reigning British monarch
visits her Māori subjects.

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— There's a lot of trauma

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that has happened to our people.

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The timeline is always here

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of the promises that they gave,

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and they switched it against us.

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— In 1840, the British made a deal

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with over 500 Māori chiefs,

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The Treaty of Waitangi.

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— My ancestor, Te Ruki Kawiti,

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said No, he would not sign the treaty.

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He said, "We can look after ourselves.

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Go away! Go back to
wherever you come from."

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He did, however, sign it in the end

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to save his people, his tribe.

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Or else they'd be wiped out.

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— Two versions of the treaty,

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were written, one in Māori,

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and one in English.

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The Māori copy promised our chiefs

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absolute authority

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over our own land and resources,

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while the English copy,

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gave all the rights and power

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of sovereignty to the Crown.

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And we're still seeing
those effects to date.

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And the main pillars of those effects,

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are the loss of language,
the loss of culture,

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and the loss of identity.

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— What I think

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colonialism and the
intergenerational trauma

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that has come as a result
of radical change

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imposed upon different populations,

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is a symptom of disconnection.

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Disconnecting from your own ways of

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knowing, doing, and being.

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That was the point,

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was to disconnect people

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from their power,

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so that they are more amenable

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to another way of knowing.

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— The children are growing up to be

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good citizens, managers
of their own homes.

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Theirs is not a specialist training,

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but training for living.

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The Māori school children
will be the educators

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of the new generations,

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in hygiene and home crafts.

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— The first schools that started here

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were called the Native Schools.

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We were the natives.

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Our grandparents were the natives.

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And you were not to speak Māori

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at the Native School.

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They brought religion in.

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And they were the worst land confiscators,

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the missionaries.

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So what they did was they said,

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"Come over, we'll teach you how to pray,

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close your eyes
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So we closed our eyes and bowed our head.

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By the time we opened
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— Through schools, they were able to

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wipe out

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the language, the culture,

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within one generation.

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— And then we are the
next generation after,

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from natives they turned into Māori.

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So we became the Māori.

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— I don't know whether

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so much that I thought that I was Māori,

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but I knew that I was from these tribes.

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Māori, the word Māori,
in its understanding,

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didn't come out as what I was.

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In my youth, the word Māori

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was used to mean "natural."

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Later on I learned

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that it was a colonized tool,

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to put us into a little
category and collective.

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— Māori people, and
I think, Indigenous people

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all over the world were assimilated,

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because what we call "the white man"

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wanted to phase out the

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tangata o te whenua,
or "the people of the land".

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— You weren't allowed to pick herbs.

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You weren't allowed
to pick any of our Rongoā.

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— They banned

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what they called the
Tohunga Suppression Act.

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1907.

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So if you were caught,

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practicing Rongoā,

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you would go to jail, you would be fined.

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Awhitia: So all of that
got lost.

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00:14:36,859 --> 00:14:39,361
Our knowledge was lost over centuries.

269
00:14:41,071 --> 00:14:43,866
— A lot of our healers decided

270
00:14:43,866 --> 00:14:45,784
to close off all the portals.

271
00:14:50,706 --> 00:14:52,791
And a lot of them went underground,

272
00:14:52,791 --> 00:14:54,502
and took their knowledge with them.

273
00:14:55,711 --> 00:14:57,087
Some died with their knowledge,

274
00:14:58,255 --> 00:15:00,466
some continued to practice underground.

275
00:15:02,676 --> 00:15:05,346
— The government of the day,
were chopping our trees

276
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to help overseas to build houses.

277
00:15:08,891 --> 00:15:11,560
And so we ended up suffering.

278
00:15:13,020 --> 00:15:17,441
Māori have got the highest
rate of health problems,

279
00:15:17,441 --> 00:15:20,653
but that's because they took
all our Rongoā trees away.

280
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Like literal medicine, herbal trees.

281
00:15:27,493 --> 00:15:29,828
We weren't born with asthma.

282
00:15:30,704 --> 00:15:32,540
It had to come from the environment,

283
00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:33,916
from Te Taiao.

284
00:15:33,916 --> 00:15:36,418
And so to have all your trees
and your Rongoā gone,

285
00:15:36,418 --> 00:15:39,004
was traumatic, especially for our people.

286
00:15:57,257 --> 00:15:59,191
— I don't feel it like an expert

287
00:15:59,191 --> 00:16:01,151
in the space of trauma,

288
00:16:01,652 --> 00:16:03,445
other than my own trauma.

289
00:16:06,365 --> 00:16:08,075
What happened?

290
00:16:11,704 --> 00:16:13,497
What worries me,

291
00:16:13,497 --> 00:16:15,791
it's as a Māori people,

292
00:16:15,791 --> 00:16:17,293
We're so disconnected,

293
00:16:17,293 --> 00:16:20,254
and we're trying really hard to reconnect,

294
00:16:20,254 --> 00:16:22,631
that sometimes we're doing more damage.

295
00:16:23,591 --> 00:16:26,594
When we're trying
to understand the trauma,

296
00:16:26,594 --> 00:16:28,762
that our people have been through,

297
00:16:28,762 --> 00:16:30,764
the very word 'trauma'

298
00:16:32,099 --> 00:16:34,435
is building empires

299
00:16:35,978 --> 00:16:37,396
that I don't think we want.

300
00:16:39,023 --> 00:16:40,608
When we find...

301
00:16:41,567 --> 00:16:44,486
terms, concepts,

302
00:16:44,486 --> 00:16:47,698
in the language that

303
00:16:47,698 --> 00:16:51,368
was the very reason for disconnecting

304
00:16:51,368 --> 00:16:55,456
my philosophical
understanding of who I am,

305
00:16:56,165 --> 00:16:59,251
and the very impact of

306
00:16:59,251 --> 00:17:01,086
our people being raped,

307
00:17:01,086 --> 00:17:04,131
our land being taken...

308
00:17:05,049 --> 00:17:06,759
Because I can't narrate that

309
00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:08,927
in my Indigenous language,

310
00:17:08,927 --> 00:17:12,181
I feel like what trauma does,

311
00:17:13,182 --> 00:17:15,643
is builds an empire,

312
00:17:15,643 --> 00:17:18,187
that promotes yet again,

313
00:17:18,187 --> 00:17:20,731
a neo-liberalistic way

314
00:17:20,731 --> 00:17:22,900
of commodifying

315
00:17:24,652 --> 00:17:26,195
our hurts,

316
00:17:26,195 --> 00:17:29,198
and using Western knowledge,

317
00:17:29,198 --> 00:17:32,409
to offer

318
00:17:32,409 --> 00:17:35,537
a therapeutic way to engage you,

319
00:17:35,537 --> 00:17:38,040
in overcoming your trauma.

320
00:17:44,546 --> 00:17:45,673
—  A big part of it

321
00:17:47,508 --> 00:17:49,343
again comes back to disconnection.

322
00:17:49,343 --> 00:17:51,345
It feels like...

323
00:17:51,345 --> 00:17:52,513
somebody's...

324
00:17:53,722 --> 00:17:56,141
severing the umbilical cords of us all

325
00:17:56,141 --> 00:17:58,060
and we're starting to float...

326
00:17:59,061 --> 00:18:00,396
all over the place.

327
00:18:02,648 --> 00:18:04,900
— The historical injustices,

328
00:18:04,900 --> 00:18:07,111
the process of colonization,

329
00:18:07,111 --> 00:18:10,030
has favored a Western knowledge system,

330
00:18:10,030 --> 00:18:12,241
so that we can help you

331
00:18:13,242 --> 00:18:15,327
almost with a sense of amnesia

332
00:18:15,327 --> 00:18:17,705
about what caused the pain

333
00:18:17,705 --> 00:18:18,997
in the first place.

334
00:18:19,873 --> 00:18:22,960
When you take a land away
from my ancestors,

335
00:18:23,877 --> 00:18:27,673
and then you would heal us
with your ways of knowing,

336
00:18:27,673 --> 00:18:31,010
not realizing that you took from us

337
00:18:31,010 --> 00:18:32,845
our ability

338
00:18:32,845 --> 00:18:36,432
to be able to thrive off our land,

339
00:18:36,432 --> 00:18:38,016
whom is our mother.

340
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,644
You took us from our mother,

341
00:18:40,644 --> 00:18:43,105
you took our mother from us,

342
00:18:43,105 --> 00:18:45,858
and we struggled to survive.

343
00:18:45,858 --> 00:18:48,235
Money was not our

344
00:18:48,235 --> 00:18:50,112
economic source

345
00:18:50,112 --> 00:18:52,072
of wealth and growth.

346
00:18:52,072 --> 00:18:55,409
It was the ability to have a relationship,

347
00:18:55,409 --> 00:18:58,954
with our land and our sky and our sea,

348
00:18:58,954 --> 00:19:00,539
and we lost that.

349
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,878
— You then saw children

350
00:19:05,878 --> 00:19:08,005
in the early 1900's,

351
00:19:08,005 --> 00:19:09,757
you know, turning to drugs,

352
00:19:09,757 --> 00:19:11,133
becoming homeless,

353
00:19:11,133 --> 00:19:13,719
because they weren't nurtured

354
00:19:13,719 --> 00:19:15,179
the way they were meant to.

355
00:19:27,858 --> 00:19:30,235
— I've been a drug
and alcohol counselor for,

356
00:19:30,235 --> 00:19:31,779
for many years.

357
00:19:32,488 --> 00:19:34,948
I started up two rehab centers,

358
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,075
one for women and one for men.

359
00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:40,537
But I said, before you even go into rehab,

360
00:19:40,537 --> 00:19:42,790
you've got to come and
spend two weeks with me,

361
00:19:42,790 --> 00:19:44,041
in the bush.

362
00:19:52,466 --> 00:19:55,177
I'm sweating and detoxing your body,

363
00:19:55,177 --> 00:19:58,347
using all different types of medicine.

364
00:19:59,771 --> 00:20:01,614
And by the time the two weeks are up,

365
00:20:01,642 --> 00:20:03,143
they don't want to leave.

366
00:20:03,143 --> 00:20:05,020
But the reason I told them that

367
00:20:05,020 --> 00:20:06,855
they needed to go to rehab

368
00:20:06,855 --> 00:20:09,149
was now that their mind is clear,

369
00:20:09,149 --> 00:20:12,736
to actually start the work to repair,

370
00:20:13,529 --> 00:20:14,863
what they have lost.

371
00:20:24,289 --> 00:20:26,834
Goes back to the way they were brought up.

372
00:20:26,834 --> 00:20:28,919
They will use alcohol,

373
00:20:28,919 --> 00:20:30,629
to get rid of the pain.

374
00:20:30,629 --> 00:20:32,339
But I said, you'll never
get rid of the pain,

375
00:20:32,339 --> 00:20:34,800
it will come back a hundred times worse!

376
00:20:36,343 --> 00:20:37,886
This is the way you have to do it.

377
00:21:06,540 --> 00:21:08,750
I had a young gentleman,

378
00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:11,169
who just got his custody of his boy,

379
00:21:11,169 --> 00:21:13,130
so he went to Auckland,

380
00:21:13,130 --> 00:21:14,923
he saw one of his friends
across the street,

381
00:21:14,923 --> 00:21:16,466
he stopped his car and said to his boy,

382
00:21:16,466 --> 00:21:18,260
"Wait here for a minute.
I won't be a minute.

383
00:21:18,260 --> 00:21:20,012
Just going to talk to this friend."

384
00:21:20,012 --> 00:21:22,014
So he went across and
he talked to his friend.

385
00:21:23,181 --> 00:21:25,392
And then
all he heard was, "Dad!"

386
00:21:25,392 --> 00:21:27,436
He turned around to see a truck go...

387
00:21:29,688 --> 00:21:32,858
He ran to his child,
his child was in... had passed.

388
00:21:41,533 --> 00:21:42,701
So that guy

389
00:21:43,410 --> 00:21:46,163
spent close on seven years

390
00:21:46,163 --> 00:21:47,664
of that same memory,

391
00:21:50,083 --> 00:21:52,294
seeing that accident,

392
00:21:52,294 --> 00:21:53,837
seeing his boy.

393
00:21:53,837 --> 00:21:56,757
He'd go to the cemetery and
he'd sleep in the cemetery,

394
00:21:56,757 --> 00:21:58,050
with this boy.

395
00:21:59,259 --> 00:22:00,427
And so...

396
00:22:02,304 --> 00:22:03,639
The rehab rang me and said to me

397
00:22:03,639 --> 00:22:05,223
he had run away, he had taken off.

398
00:22:06,224 --> 00:22:08,143
I said, "Wait there,
I'll find him."

399
00:22:08,143 --> 00:22:10,020
I caught him walking the road.

400
00:22:10,020 --> 00:22:12,564
So I took him to another healer.

401
00:22:12,564 --> 00:22:14,149
Me and the healer to work on him.

402
00:22:15,609 --> 00:22:17,736
And so we worked on him.

403
00:22:17,736 --> 00:22:20,030
And I said to him,
"You need to let him go.

404
00:22:20,030 --> 00:22:22,324
You've held on to him

405
00:22:22,324 --> 00:22:23,700
for over seven years.

406
00:22:24,534 --> 00:22:26,954
And you've been having the same dreams.

407
00:22:26,954 --> 00:22:28,455
No matter what medicine

408
00:22:28,455 --> 00:22:30,874
the doctors have given you
to try and knock you out,

409
00:22:32,542 --> 00:22:34,586
you can't, because that
dream keeps coming back,

410
00:22:34,586 --> 00:22:36,630
coming back and seeing that accident.

411
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:39,925
I said,
"You need to let the boy go."

412
00:22:40,842 --> 00:22:44,638
So working with him all day
and finally, he let it go.

413
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:47,891
Hopped in my car and he said
to me, "Can I sleep?"

414
00:22:47,891 --> 00:22:50,352
He slept for three days, in my car.

415
00:22:50,352 --> 00:22:51,853
I just let him sleep.

416
00:22:51,853 --> 00:22:53,605
He got up and he said to me,

417
00:22:54,439 --> 00:22:55,857
"I had this dream.

418
00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:59,069
My boy was
playing in the park."

419
00:22:59,069 --> 00:23:00,362
Big smile!

420
00:23:02,406 --> 00:23:04,324
And I said to him, "You're healed.

421
00:23:04,324 --> 00:23:06,159
You don't need to be here."

422
00:23:06,159 --> 00:23:08,870
And he said, "No, I want to be here.

423
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:10,372
I want to help others."

424
00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:12,499
So he stayed in rehab.

425
00:23:26,013 --> 00:23:29,057
— The goal for me in Rongoā Māori,

426
00:23:29,057 --> 00:23:33,937
is to lift the mana, the esteem, the power

427
00:23:33,937 --> 00:23:36,356
and the Mauri, the lifeforce

428
00:23:36,356 --> 00:23:38,608
of people in place.

429
00:23:38,608 --> 00:23:40,318
So not one in isolation,

430
00:23:40,318 --> 00:23:42,237
not people separate from the world,

431
00:23:42,237 --> 00:23:44,906
but the world, including people.

432
00:23:49,286 --> 00:23:50,954
— Take a deep breath.

433
00:23:53,206 --> 00:23:54,416
And let it go.

434
00:23:57,210 --> 00:23:59,087
— When we look at

435
00:23:59,087 --> 00:24:02,632
the way that animals use their senses,

436
00:24:02,632 --> 00:24:04,885
this way that our healers use their senses

437
00:24:04,885 --> 00:24:06,845
is actually no different to our siblings

438
00:24:06,845 --> 00:24:08,305
in the animal world.

439
00:24:10,057 --> 00:24:12,225
— You write everything.

440
00:24:12,225 --> 00:24:14,394
— Dominant?
— Yeah.

441
00:24:15,645 --> 00:24:17,731
— We just lost them,

442
00:24:17,731 --> 00:24:20,192
and so they seem weird now,

443
00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:22,319
in a modern world, but they're not weird.

444
00:24:26,323 --> 00:24:28,784
— That's where you're sticking.

445
00:24:28,784 --> 00:24:29,785
— Mhm.

446
00:24:31,953 --> 00:24:35,540
— That just some of us have grown up
with those around us,

447
00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:37,209
those senses highly attuned.

448
00:24:37,209 --> 00:24:38,710
Not all of them at once,

449
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:41,004
but maybe one more than the other.

450
00:24:41,004 --> 00:24:43,006
And we use that as a gift.

451
00:24:43,006 --> 00:24:45,509
We use that as a gift
to help us in our work.

452
00:24:48,553 --> 00:24:50,847
— I hear the word "trauma,"

453
00:24:50,847 --> 00:24:53,100
I don't understand it.

454
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:54,893
I don't see it in the body

455
00:24:54,893 --> 00:24:57,395
in the way that it's described.

456
00:25:02,067 --> 00:25:04,069
There's a smell that comes off a body.

457
00:25:09,658 --> 00:25:11,993
If we know how to smell the body,

458
00:25:11,993 --> 00:25:13,787
—and when I talk about smelling,

459
00:25:13,787 --> 00:25:17,332
I'm not talking about the
physical odor of the body,

460
00:25:17,332 --> 00:25:20,752
I'm talking about the
spiritual odor of the body—

461
00:25:21,795 --> 00:25:23,505
when we can smell that,

462
00:25:23,505 --> 00:25:25,549
you can...

463
00:25:25,549 --> 00:25:28,969
almost smell which organ it's coming from.

464
00:25:30,387 --> 00:25:31,847
If I know it's the liver,

465
00:25:31,847 --> 00:25:34,891
then there's work to be
done behind the knees

466
00:25:34,891 --> 00:25:37,602
and at the back for the liver

467
00:25:37,602 --> 00:25:40,522
to... placate it,

468
00:25:40,522 --> 00:25:42,732
to make it peaceful.

469
00:25:44,067 --> 00:25:47,696
The liver is connected to
the anger we hold in the body.

470
00:25:48,613 --> 00:25:52,492
So if that's a smell I get,
then I know what to do.

471
00:25:53,577 --> 00:25:55,495
If it's the kidneys,

472
00:25:55,495 --> 00:25:58,206
then I'm looking at a
different part of the body.

473
00:25:58,206 --> 00:26:01,168
We aren’t taught as children how to smell.

474
00:26:01,168 --> 00:26:03,670
We know it instinctively.

475
00:26:09,551 --> 00:26:11,261
I know no other way.

476
00:26:12,888 --> 00:26:14,472
It's not even a picture,

477
00:26:14,472 --> 00:26:17,184
it's not a judgment or a sense,

478
00:26:17,184 --> 00:26:18,643
I just know,

479
00:26:18,643 --> 00:26:21,104
and actually, we all do.

480
00:26:22,272 --> 00:26:25,192
You know how to smell someone who is ill.

481
00:26:25,192 --> 00:26:28,403
Someone who has cancer
in the chest or the breast,

482
00:26:28,403 --> 00:26:30,405
their body exudes a smell.

483
00:26:30,405 --> 00:26:33,492
Everything has to do
with the physicalness of here.

484
00:26:33,492 --> 00:26:36,828
Emotion never plays a part
for me in the work,

485
00:26:36,828 --> 00:26:38,747
but it gets in the way.

486
00:26:41,541 --> 00:26:43,501
— I'm gonna hold this,

487
00:26:43,501 --> 00:26:46,004
until the lung lets go.

488
00:26:46,004 --> 00:26:48,131
— I don't see emotion.

489
00:26:48,131 --> 00:26:49,466
I know where it is

490
00:26:49,466 --> 00:26:51,343
and I know what they're doing.

491
00:26:51,343 --> 00:26:55,263
But my job is to align this, this and this

492
00:26:55,263 --> 00:26:57,974
and keep it strong

493
00:26:57,974 --> 00:26:59,351
and intact for them.

494
00:26:59,351 --> 00:27:00,560
When those are aligned,

495
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,063
the emotion won't have any way

496
00:27:03,063 --> 00:27:04,898
to interrupt them.

497
00:27:10,487 --> 00:27:12,614
— You're good? You can get up

498
00:27:12,614 --> 00:27:14,741
when you're ready, take your time.

499
00:27:14,741 --> 00:27:17,786
As soon as the egg, egg and the seed,

500
00:27:17,786 --> 00:27:20,080
as soon as they come together,

501
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,871
that's when we, as the
human being we're going to be,

502
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:25,829
start to feel everything.

503
00:27:25,857 --> 00:27:26,920
We have a memory,

504
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,880
—and everybody thinks that's up here,

505
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,173
the memory's here—

506
00:27:30,173 --> 00:27:32,968
of everything we've experienced in life.

507
00:27:32,968 --> 00:27:37,472
And for those who are
lucky enough or unlucky enough

508
00:27:37,472 --> 00:27:40,684
to remember past lives and future lives,

509
00:27:40,684 --> 00:27:43,853
that in itself can also be

510
00:27:43,853 --> 00:27:46,022
either a bonus,

511
00:27:46,022 --> 00:27:47,649
or a drain on them.

512
00:27:47,649 --> 00:27:48,817
— As soon as you started

513
00:27:48,817 --> 00:27:50,068
my jaw started quivering.

514
00:27:50,068 --> 00:27:53,405
— I saw that, yeah.
— And it still kind of is.

515
00:27:53,405 --> 00:27:55,365
— But that's your emotional release.

516
00:27:55,365 --> 00:27:58,785
Not everybody does it
through the eyes and crying.

517
00:27:58,785 --> 00:28:01,162
We all have our own way.

518
00:28:01,162 --> 00:28:03,123
You're a stalwart,

519
00:28:03,148 --> 00:28:06,351
you have... truth, you know.

520
00:28:06,376 --> 00:28:08,003
Because you're a power

521
00:28:08,003 --> 00:28:10,422
and that's why you have to
pass your knowledge on,

522
00:28:10,422 --> 00:28:12,132
and you have to do it fast.

523
00:28:18,555 --> 00:28:21,599
— There's so much in one human being,

524
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:25,395
to stop trauma from
continuing in us and continuing,

525
00:28:25,395 --> 00:28:27,188
because it goes down lineal,

526
00:28:27,188 --> 00:28:29,899
back and ancestral and forward.

527
00:28:31,693 --> 00:28:34,237
We believe that's why
we do a lot of our practices,

528
00:28:34,237 --> 00:28:35,989
that are always done on the womb,

529
00:28:35,989 --> 00:28:38,241
because it's where the source is.

530
00:28:38,241 --> 00:28:40,660
— I'm just gonna go down.
I'm just gonna go down.

531
00:28:41,828 --> 00:28:43,705
Yeah.

532
00:28:43,705 --> 00:28:45,415
— Deep breath.

533
00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:57,218
— Keep going.

534
00:29:06,102 --> 00:29:08,063
— Good!
— Ah!

535
00:29:15,528 --> 00:29:18,740
— How many pregnancies did you have?

536
00:29:22,744 --> 00:29:24,454
Atarangi: So you had—yeah,

537
00:29:24,454 --> 00:29:26,956
that's what I was asking.
Okay. Cool.

538
00:29:27,999 --> 00:29:29,667
Before or after her?

539
00:29:31,628 --> 00:29:35,090
— Before. Was she directly after that?

540
00:29:43,890 --> 00:29:46,935
— So you're the daughter that

541
00:29:46,935 --> 00:29:49,437
was conceived after the,

542
00:29:49,437 --> 00:29:52,023
the one you lost, is she here?
— Yeah.

543
00:29:52,023 --> 00:29:53,817
— I need to do her.
— Yeah?

544
00:29:53,817 --> 00:29:55,693
— Because she's always thinking

545
00:29:55,693 --> 00:29:57,821
she's missing something.

546
00:30:03,910 --> 00:30:06,579
— What is in the organ
is a cellular memory.

547
00:30:06,579 --> 00:30:08,456
That's the memory of the cells

548
00:30:08,456 --> 00:30:10,291
that have been connected to trauma,

549
00:30:10,291 --> 00:30:11,960
any kind of trauma.

550
00:30:17,841 --> 00:30:19,384
— Breathe it in with me.

551
00:30:20,427 --> 00:30:21,719
And breathe it up.

552
00:30:21,719 --> 00:30:23,513
Breathe it up.

553
00:30:23,513 --> 00:30:27,392
— And so my practice for looking after
and healing the womb,

554
00:30:27,392 --> 00:30:31,062
is for those women who have
lost their babies in the womb,

555
00:30:31,062 --> 00:30:33,000
who passed away in the womb.

556
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:34,586
We realigned the kopu,

557
00:30:34,614 --> 00:30:36,818
take all of the cellular
memory out of their trauma,

558
00:30:36,818 --> 00:30:39,446
that they've have just had,

559
00:30:39,446 --> 00:30:41,156
by losing baby in the womb.

560
00:30:41,156 --> 00:30:43,491
So, that the new baby can come in

561
00:30:43,491 --> 00:30:48,079
and not feel the trauma of
the baby that was just passed.

562
00:31:00,258 --> 00:31:02,635
— The child doesn't understand,

563
00:31:02,635 --> 00:31:06,055
there's been something else
in there before them,

564
00:31:06,055 --> 00:31:08,725
and they're always seeking

565
00:31:08,725 --> 00:31:11,811
that other energy, because
it was there with them.

566
00:31:11,811 --> 00:31:14,439
All right.
You feel that beat? Yeah.

567
00:31:15,982 --> 00:31:17,025
Okay.

568
00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:21,696
So, that's all right, just breathe.

569
00:31:22,071 --> 00:31:23,823
I'm going to just check.

570
00:31:29,412 --> 00:31:31,539
Don't try and control it.

571
00:31:34,459 --> 00:31:37,128
So the heartbeat that I'm picking up here,

572
00:31:37,128 --> 00:31:39,964
is different to the beat I'm picking here,

573
00:31:39,964 --> 00:31:41,508
I'm picking up here.

574
00:31:41,508 --> 00:31:44,135
This one does not belong here.

575
00:31:44,135 --> 00:31:45,762
You know that don't you?

576
00:31:45,762 --> 00:31:46,888
You know why?

577
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:50,391
All right. Your mom
will tell you later.

578
00:32:16,376 --> 00:32:19,837
— As children, we were
told by our teachers

579
00:32:19,837 --> 00:32:23,049
to lie on our backs with our eyes closed

580
00:32:23,049 --> 00:32:25,176
and to concentrate on our breathing.

581
00:32:25,969 --> 00:32:28,054
And for 20 minutes, every day,

582
00:32:28,054 --> 00:32:31,599
we would recite lines from Mōteatea .

583
00:32:45,446 --> 00:32:47,490
In its most basic form,

584
00:32:47,490 --> 00:32:49,701
a Mōteatea is a chant,

585
00:32:49,701 --> 00:32:51,869
and probably the most

586
00:32:51,869 --> 00:32:55,248
archaic form of music to Māori culture,

587
00:32:55,248 --> 00:32:58,001
and was commonly used by our ancestors

588
00:32:58,001 --> 00:33:01,963
as a way of expressing
their emotions and feelings,

589
00:33:01,963 --> 00:33:04,340
to events that may have just taken place.

590
00:33:10,597 --> 00:33:12,890
— A Mōteatea is a form of therapy,

591
00:33:12,890 --> 00:33:15,393
and was a form of therapy
for our ancestors,

592
00:33:15,393 --> 00:33:17,770
where they were able to

593
00:33:17,770 --> 00:33:21,566
spell out those emotions,
rather than harbor them.

594
00:33:21,566 --> 00:33:23,443
Now, when we think of colonization,

595
00:33:23,443 --> 00:33:25,903
a lot of our Mōteatea weren't

596
00:33:25,903 --> 00:33:27,947
passed down to the next generation,

597
00:33:27,947 --> 00:33:30,366
because the language was beaten,

598
00:33:30,366 --> 00:33:33,161
literally beaten out of our ancestors.

599
00:33:43,171 --> 00:33:44,922
— We were beaten at school for

600
00:33:44,922 --> 00:33:48,676
speaking my language in the '70s,

601
00:33:48,676 --> 00:33:50,553
literally beaten.

602
00:33:51,721 --> 00:33:53,473
And...um...

603
00:33:54,974 --> 00:33:58,353
and then I was determined
to make sure that

604
00:33:58,353 --> 00:33:59,979
my children would have

605
00:33:59,979 --> 00:34:01,856
the language given back to them.

606
00:34:02,523 --> 00:34:04,609
And so, we fought.

607
00:34:05,943 --> 00:34:08,279
— And it was our parents generation that

608
00:34:08,279 --> 00:34:12,283
finally discovered that that way of

609
00:34:12,283 --> 00:34:15,578
educating Māori children was not working.

610
00:34:15,578 --> 00:34:17,914
— My children were one of the first

611
00:34:18,748 --> 00:34:21,834
pioneers to be able to speak our language,

612
00:34:21,859 --> 00:34:25,443
to return our language back to our land.

613
00:34:45,483 --> 00:34:47,735
— A young person who is lost

614
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,406
because of colonization,
because of urbanization,

615
00:34:51,406 --> 00:34:52,771
I think it's a great way

616
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,159
to introduce them to their ancestry.

617
00:34:56,035 --> 00:34:59,455
And to know that that ancestry
right down to the Creation,

618
00:34:59,455 --> 00:35:01,999
right back to the Creation of the world,

619
00:35:01,999 --> 00:35:03,584
is as it is,

620
00:35:03,584 --> 00:35:05,670
is fabulous!

621
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:21,519
— My mother, who was,
who is Doctor Cathy Dewes,

622
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:24,313
one of the handful of
leaders from the '80s,

623
00:35:24,313 --> 00:35:28,276
opened a school here
on the shores of Rotorua,

624
00:35:28,276 --> 00:35:29,402
and she named the school

625
00:35:29,402 --> 00:35:31,446
Te Kura Kaupapa Māori o Ruamata,

626
00:35:31,446 --> 00:35:33,906
which is where I spent the first

627
00:35:33,906 --> 00:35:35,491
18 years of my life.

628
00:35:35,491 --> 00:35:38,494
And it was only the second
school of its type

629
00:35:38,494 --> 00:35:39,746
at the time.

630
00:36:02,796 --> 00:36:03,657
— Te Kura Kaupapa Māori,

631
00:36:03,686 --> 00:36:05,646
or total immersion Māori schooling,

632
00:36:05,646 --> 00:36:07,940
has to be done totally in Māori.

633
00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:09,609
The school encourages

634
00:36:09,609 --> 00:36:11,986
parents to speak Māori at home,

635
00:36:11,986 --> 00:36:13,613
as well as school.

636
00:36:13,613 --> 00:36:15,364
We have a saying here,

637
00:36:17,617 --> 00:36:19,786
"Where a school should be as a home,

638
00:36:19,786 --> 00:36:21,412
and a home should be
as a school."

639
00:36:33,674 --> 00:36:36,969
We combine the two worlds of our students,

640
00:36:36,969 --> 00:36:38,471
the home and the school,

641
00:36:38,471 --> 00:36:40,890
and basically, the whole environment

642
00:36:40,890 --> 00:36:42,475
growing up becomes one.

643
00:36:48,523 --> 00:36:51,567
— Everything that that
young person is experiencing,

644
00:36:51,567 --> 00:36:53,694
our ancestors have experienced.

645
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,157
In the stories is a blueprint

646
00:36:58,157 --> 00:37:00,743
about how to deal

647
00:37:01,702 --> 00:37:04,330
with just certain types of distress,

648
00:37:04,357 --> 00:37:06,900
that they are also experiencing.

649
00:37:09,335 --> 00:37:12,004
And so, you expose these young people,

650
00:37:12,004 --> 00:37:14,590
who are lost, in a sense,

651
00:37:14,590 --> 00:37:18,344
to that, and that allows them to find

652
00:37:18,344 --> 00:37:20,429
the path that suits them.

653
00:37:21,472 --> 00:37:23,015
— You know what, we're gonna
start from the start!

654
00:37:24,058 --> 00:37:25,685
— It's all about Mauri too.

655
00:37:25,685 --> 00:37:27,186
You can't just go "phsshh" harmony.

656
00:37:41,576 --> 00:37:43,786
— I didn't do well in school.

657
00:37:44,662 --> 00:37:46,247
I was a teenage mum,

658
00:37:46,247 --> 00:37:48,207
and it was at a time

659
00:37:48,207 --> 00:37:51,335
where to be Māori, and to be a young mum

660
00:37:51,335 --> 00:37:53,671
had purpose, had meaning.

661
00:37:53,671 --> 00:37:55,423
I could offer them something.

662
00:37:55,423 --> 00:37:56,757
Yeah, it's, yes.

663
00:37:56,757 --> 00:37:57,758
Beautiful phrasing!

664
00:38:06,726 --> 00:38:10,146
— See, Māori clinical psychologists can't sing.

665
00:38:11,188 --> 00:38:14,775
I don't think I wanted to go down
a pathway of psychiatry.

666
00:38:14,775 --> 00:38:17,278
I wanted to protest

667
00:38:17,278 --> 00:38:18,946
against racism.

668
00:38:18,946 --> 00:38:21,240
I wanted to fight for my right

669
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,826
to exist as a Māori.

670
00:38:24,118 --> 00:38:27,747
I wanted distress to be seen,

671
00:38:27,747 --> 00:38:29,874
without being diagnosed.

672
00:38:29,874 --> 00:38:32,752
I wanted to do away with criteria

673
00:38:32,752 --> 00:38:34,462
for people to access

674
00:38:34,462 --> 00:38:37,089
authentic, meaningful help.

675
00:38:37,381 --> 00:38:39,467
And I wanted to be proud

676
00:38:39,467 --> 00:38:42,303
of our culture as Māori.

677
00:38:50,186 --> 00:38:52,104
And I did a Māori course

678
00:38:52,104 --> 00:38:54,106
and learned my language,

679
00:38:54,106 --> 00:38:56,525
and it was the year that I learned about

680
00:38:56,525 --> 00:38:59,487
our Creation stories,
and I was a baby in them,

681
00:38:59,487 --> 00:39:02,365
like I knew about five or seven of them,

682
00:39:02,365 --> 00:39:04,242
but I was gonna try!

683
00:39:04,242 --> 00:39:08,037
— I'm hoping, if we secure funding...

684
00:39:08,037 --> 00:39:09,664
— So when I met Mark...

685
00:39:10,581 --> 00:39:12,708
Oh my gosh, he knew like
a thousand of them.

686
00:39:13,042 --> 00:39:16,462
And I remember asking him
on a Facebook text like,

687
00:39:16,462 --> 00:39:19,757
"Do you know much about
our Creation stories?"

688
00:39:19,757 --> 00:39:21,676
I didn't know he was a Tohunga.

689
00:39:21,676 --> 00:39:23,177
I didn't know

690
00:39:23,177 --> 00:39:25,554
that he was a walking encyclopedia.

691
00:39:25,554 --> 00:39:28,891
All I knew was that there
was this man interested in me.

692
00:39:40,611 --> 00:39:43,406
— There are many, many Pūrākau

693
00:39:43,406 --> 00:39:45,908
or stories that we can use

694
00:39:45,908 --> 00:39:47,868
depending on whatever circumstance

695
00:39:47,868 --> 00:39:49,996
in the now we are experiencing.

696
00:39:53,582 --> 00:39:55,835
We use those stories to help people

697
00:39:55,835 --> 00:39:57,837
familiarize themselves

698
00:39:57,837 --> 00:39:59,547
with not just their genealogy,

699
00:39:59,547 --> 00:40:02,883
but they feel huge compassion
towards their ancestor

700
00:40:02,883 --> 00:40:04,969
who went through this emotional injury.

701
00:40:04,969 --> 00:40:06,512
But not only that, they—

702
00:40:06,512 --> 00:40:07,972
it resonates with them because

703
00:40:07,972 --> 00:40:09,265
they're going through the same thing.

704
00:40:16,397 --> 00:40:19,734
— Nice...

705
00:40:19,759 --> 00:40:20,876
It was pretty good!

706
00:40:20,901 --> 00:40:22,820
— Find a room!
— You'll find a room.

707
00:40:24,655 --> 00:40:27,158
— The tears of their
ancestors became the stars,

708
00:40:27,158 --> 00:40:28,951
the moon and the sun,

709
00:40:28,951 --> 00:40:32,621
that provided light for everybody else.

710
00:40:42,256 --> 00:40:44,133
— What Mahi a Atua is about,

711
00:40:44,133 --> 00:40:47,762
is thinking about Māori knowledge.

712
00:40:48,304 --> 00:40:51,057
The way that we understand and experience

713
00:40:51,057 --> 00:40:53,309
the Universe from a Māori perspective.

714
00:40:53,976 --> 00:40:56,353
How do we operationalize

715
00:40:56,353 --> 00:40:57,980
all of that knowledge?

716
00:40:58,522 --> 00:41:00,816
— All of those three Atua,

717
00:41:00,816 --> 00:41:05,571
(speaking Māori language)

718
00:41:05,571 --> 00:41:07,698
worked as a collective.

719
00:41:07,698 --> 00:41:10,076
— How do we make sense of a Māori story,

720
00:41:10,076 --> 00:41:12,078
a Creation story

721
00:41:12,078 --> 00:41:13,788
in a healing space?

722
00:41:13,788 --> 00:41:17,041
And we term that Mahi a Atua

723
00:41:17,041 --> 00:41:19,585
and it's really ancestral healing.

724
00:41:19,585 --> 00:41:22,379
— The daughter had said,

725
00:41:22,379 --> 00:41:23,714
I've already got four kids,

726
00:41:23,714 --> 00:41:25,382
it was like having a fifth child!

727
00:41:26,926 --> 00:41:30,137
We train people to practice

728
00:41:30,137 --> 00:41:31,764
this way of thinking

729
00:41:31,764 --> 00:41:35,267
and this way of understanding
your existence in this world.

730
00:41:36,602 --> 00:41:39,438
And in order for them to maintain

731
00:41:39,438 --> 00:41:41,398
that way of being,

732
00:41:41,398 --> 00:41:42,817
we have three principles.

733
00:42:04,588 --> 00:42:06,423
So, the first one

734
00:42:06,423 --> 00:42:08,050
in our language is

735
00:42:08,050 --> 00:42:09,718
Tēnei te Pō Nau mai te Ao,

736
00:42:09,718 --> 00:42:13,597
which translates to
"indigenize your spaces,"

737
00:42:13,597 --> 00:42:15,891
not just your environment around you,

738
00:42:15,891 --> 00:42:17,560
but also internally.

739
00:42:19,603 --> 00:42:22,064
Rather than decolonizing yourself,

740
00:42:22,064 --> 00:42:24,108
indigenize yourself.

741
00:42:26,235 --> 00:42:27,945
The second one in our language is

742
00:42:27,945 --> 00:42:30,823
Ka mate ariki ka mate tauira.

743
00:42:32,533 --> 00:42:35,077
And that means to forever being

744
00:42:35,077 --> 00:42:37,121
inquisitive and be a learner.

745
00:42:39,123 --> 00:42:41,041
Whenever you go into a situation,

746
00:42:41,041 --> 00:42:42,877
go with empty baskets,

747
00:42:42,877 --> 00:42:45,921
so that you can get those
people that you're with,

748
00:42:45,921 --> 00:42:47,673
to fill your basket up.

749
00:42:50,843 --> 00:42:52,469
Seek balance.

750
00:42:55,681 --> 00:42:58,559
The last principle is the hardest one.

751
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:00,686
In our language it is

752
00:43:00,686 --> 00:43:02,188
Hongi Hongi te wheiwheia,

753
00:43:02,188 --> 00:43:03,981
which translated means

754
00:43:03,981 --> 00:43:06,358
to "inhale the unusual."

755
00:43:07,234 --> 00:43:09,862
What we're talking about
is a culture of feedback.

756
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,908
And predominantly negative feedback.

757
00:43:13,908 --> 00:43:16,660
Not feedback to destroy somebody.

758
00:43:16,660 --> 00:43:20,539
It is a feedback to create collective growth.

759
00:43:29,298 --> 00:43:31,091
— Just knowing who we are,

760
00:43:31,091 --> 00:43:32,718
where we come from,

761
00:43:32,718 --> 00:43:35,346
knowing the stories of our ancestors,

762
00:43:36,263 --> 00:43:40,017
and trying to reclaim
those stories as our own,

763
00:43:40,017 --> 00:43:43,103
and I think that can

764
00:43:43,103 --> 00:43:45,564
bind a lot of the trauma,

765
00:43:46,732 --> 00:43:49,985
that has been passed down
from generation to generation.

766
00:43:59,411 --> 00:44:02,039
— And I think, we're at
a time now, as Māori people,

767
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:03,332
we are happy to

768
00:44:04,208 --> 00:44:06,377
embrace what happened to our ancestors.

769
00:44:11,632 --> 00:44:14,218
We know that Māori were a strong people,

770
00:44:15,094 --> 00:44:17,346
and we were wrong-done by

771
00:44:17,346 --> 00:44:19,139
the government of New Zealand.

772
00:44:19,139 --> 00:44:21,934
And we have the tools, I think,

773
00:44:21,934 --> 00:44:24,311
I think we have the tools
now to heal ourselves.

774
00:44:38,284 --> 00:44:41,620
Each Mōteatea holds an energy,

775
00:44:41,620 --> 00:44:44,164
a vibration, our story

776
00:44:44,164 --> 00:44:46,792
that can benefit

777
00:44:46,792 --> 00:44:49,211
us as their descendants.

778
00:44:53,132 --> 00:44:56,218
I was at university in 2009,

779
00:44:56,218 --> 00:44:59,263
and I came across, just by chance,

780
00:44:59,263 --> 00:45:03,559
the lament that my ancestors, Hinemoa wrote

781
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:08,772
at the passing of her
beloved husband Tutanekai.

782
00:45:12,651 --> 00:45:14,987
— And I couldn't believe my eyes because

783
00:45:14,987 --> 00:45:16,947
I had grown up on

784
00:45:16,947 --> 00:45:19,533
the love story of Hinemoa Tutanekai,

785
00:45:19,533 --> 00:45:22,161
however, the lament
that she wrote captures

786
00:45:22,161 --> 00:45:24,955
a different side to the story,
that it wasn't quite

787
00:45:24,955 --> 00:45:26,665
a fairy tale as we thought.

788
00:45:26,665 --> 00:45:29,877
The anguish and the sadness
that is expressed

789
00:45:29,877 --> 00:45:31,879
in the words of Hinemoa.

790
00:45:36,633 --> 00:45:39,011
I brought them back
to my elders and asked them,

791
00:45:39,011 --> 00:45:42,473
"Do you know the tune
to this Mōteatea?"

792
00:45:42,473 --> 00:45:43,932
And nobody knew,

793
00:45:43,932 --> 00:45:46,352
because it had been lost for so long.

794
00:45:49,271 --> 00:45:52,066
I firmly believe that
Mōteatea are the window

795
00:45:52,066 --> 00:45:54,193
to the world of our ancestors,

796
00:45:54,193 --> 00:45:56,904
the way of living their language,

797
00:45:56,904 --> 00:45:59,323
customs and the people of the time,

798
00:45:59,323 --> 00:46:02,534
and the raw emotion
at the time of composition.

799
00:46:26,809 --> 00:46:30,521
Kapa Haka itself is now an important part

800
00:46:30,521 --> 00:46:33,399
of the revitalization of

801
00:46:33,399 --> 00:46:35,359
our language and our culture,

802
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:38,070
because so many Māori

803
00:46:38,070 --> 00:46:39,947
participate in Kapa Haka.

804
00:46:39,947 --> 00:46:43,534
I mean, there are almost 2,000 performers

805
00:46:43,534 --> 00:46:46,912
attending, participating in the upcoming

806
00:46:46,912 --> 00:46:49,248
Te Matatini competition, National competition.

807
00:46:49,248 --> 00:46:52,418
So 2,000 performers
and we're expecting over

808
00:46:52,418 --> 00:46:54,670
50,000 audience members.

809
00:46:56,380 --> 00:46:58,173
— ...change, yeah?
— Yeah!

810
00:46:59,341 --> 00:47:02,886
Not (speaking Māori language), again.

811
00:47:02,886 --> 00:47:05,347
— I'm the head tutor of

812
00:47:05,347 --> 00:47:07,224
Te Kapa Haka o Ngāti Whakaue.

813
00:47:07,224 --> 00:47:09,768
Now I've been Head tutor

814
00:47:09,768 --> 00:47:11,603
for seven years now,

815
00:47:11,603 --> 00:47:13,730
and this will only be
our second Nationals.

816
00:47:24,908 --> 00:47:26,869
— We've been practicing now for

817
00:47:26,869 --> 00:47:28,954
about six months for this competition.

818
00:47:28,954 --> 00:47:30,330
We've put the program together.

819
00:47:30,330 --> 00:47:31,915
We've taught it to our group.

820
00:47:31,915 --> 00:47:33,917
We've picked our best performers,

821
00:47:33,917 --> 00:47:36,879
in the hope that we make the finals,

822
00:47:36,879 --> 00:47:40,507
because it's something our
tribe has never done before.

823
00:47:40,507 --> 00:47:42,426
But that's what we're aiming for.

824
00:47:45,554 --> 00:47:48,515
Kapa Haka is modeled

825
00:47:48,515 --> 00:47:50,559
from the protocols

826
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:52,311
of a welcoming ceremony.

827
00:47:52,311 --> 00:47:55,689
The Mōteatea is one of the key customs

828
00:47:55,689 --> 00:47:57,649
of that welcoming ceremony.

829
00:47:58,525 --> 00:48:01,111
So that's where Mōteatea
fits in with Kapa Haka.

830
00:48:01,111 --> 00:48:03,405
I think it's a vessel,

831
00:48:03,405 --> 00:48:05,824
or a vehicle

832
00:48:05,824 --> 00:48:08,994
in delivering the language, the culture

833
00:48:08,994 --> 00:48:11,580
and our customs to our people.

834
00:48:23,175 --> 00:48:26,053
— You two gotta get off your feet.

835
00:48:26,053 --> 00:48:28,138
Change!

836
00:49:17,646 --> 00:49:19,273
— For me, one of the things

837
00:49:19,273 --> 00:49:21,984
about Rongoā or healing

838
00:49:21,984 --> 00:49:24,403
is that we can come in at it

839
00:49:24,403 --> 00:49:26,655
from multiple perspectives.

840
00:49:26,655 --> 00:49:29,408
We'll see people that
work really proficiently

841
00:49:29,408 --> 00:49:31,076
with plant medicines.

842
00:49:31,076 --> 00:49:33,579
We'll see people that
work really proficiently

843
00:49:33,579 --> 00:49:35,706
in terms of bodywork.

844
00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:40,168
We'll see people

845
00:49:40,168 --> 00:49:42,796
who use things like Haka.

846
00:49:42,796 --> 00:49:45,841
They have their way of
bringing about healing

847
00:49:45,841 --> 00:49:47,467
through that medium.

848
00:49:47,467 --> 00:49:49,553
We will see through our arts.

849
00:50:20,083 --> 00:50:21,460
Kia ora tatou.

850
00:50:26,673 --> 00:50:28,592
When we talk about healing,

851
00:50:28,592 --> 00:50:30,010
Karakia,

852
00:50:31,053 --> 00:50:33,930
is a healing, is a role.

853
00:50:37,476 --> 00:50:39,811
— Karakia is often
translated as "prayer."

854
00:50:40,646 --> 00:50:43,398
I personally don't
subscribe to that because,

855
00:50:43,398 --> 00:50:46,652
you know, I learned prayer
in a Christian context.

856
00:50:46,652 --> 00:50:48,570
— They're not called prayers.

857
00:50:48,570 --> 00:50:49,946
They're called Takutaku.

858
00:50:51,406 --> 00:50:55,160
It's a chant from the old, the old ways.

859
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,330
And that chant, in that chant,
is what they call

860
00:50:58,330 --> 00:51:00,666
the vibration and frequency.

861
00:51:01,333 --> 00:51:02,709
We tap into that.

862
00:51:02,709 --> 00:51:05,587
— You know, Karakia helps us
disconnect from the things

863
00:51:05,587 --> 00:51:07,506
that busy the mind and the heart.

864
00:51:07,506 --> 00:51:10,967
So that when we need to hear
the voices of our ancestors

865
00:51:10,967 --> 00:51:13,970
and the advice and the
direction of our ancestors,

866
00:51:13,970 --> 00:51:17,265
Karakia can help open those channels.

867
00:51:17,265 --> 00:51:20,435
— People can heal by just doing Karakia.

868
00:51:49,756 --> 00:51:52,050
— There are whole different levels of teaching.

869
00:51:52,643 --> 00:51:55,900
So there's the learning of Karakia,

870
00:51:55,929 --> 00:51:56,972
your Whakapapa.

871
00:51:59,766 --> 00:52:02,477
— Whakapapa, your genealogy,

872
00:52:02,477 --> 00:52:04,896
right back to the Creator.

873
00:52:04,896 --> 00:52:06,440
— Then there's another level,

874
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,359
the art of doing Tā moko.

875
00:52:12,946 --> 00:52:15,907
— Moko, which is a Māori tattoo,

876
00:52:15,907 --> 00:52:18,577
culturally restricted to Māori people

877
00:52:18,577 --> 00:52:20,579
or people of Māori heritage.

878
00:52:25,625 --> 00:52:27,335
— This is what we call a Mataora.

879
00:52:28,044 --> 00:52:30,172
Before you can get this,

880
00:52:30,172 --> 00:52:32,174
you have to do all this,

881
00:52:32,174 --> 00:52:33,467
right up to your back,

882
00:52:34,426 --> 00:52:36,970
before you're allowed to
have this on your face.

883
00:52:39,806 --> 00:52:42,768
— They're tools for us
to use to connect us.

884
00:52:43,393 --> 00:52:45,854
Māori people want to feel this assurance

885
00:52:45,854 --> 00:52:47,731
that the ancestry is with them.

886
00:52:47,731 --> 00:52:51,026
— Every person would
have a different design,

887
00:52:51,026 --> 00:52:53,862
which meant something that they had to do.

888
00:52:55,989 --> 00:52:57,949
— And in our history,

889
00:52:57,949 --> 00:53:01,036
our ancestors that did
navigate across the oceans,

890
00:53:01,036 --> 00:53:03,538
they had star clusters
tattooed on their backs.

891
00:53:04,748 --> 00:53:06,792
So that the navigator could look at some—

892
00:53:06,792 --> 00:53:09,002
one of the crew's back,

893
00:53:09,002 --> 00:53:10,587
and understand: "Right,

894
00:53:11,463 --> 00:53:13,089
there's bad weather in the direction

895
00:53:13,089 --> 00:53:14,633
that we should be going,

896
00:53:14,633 --> 00:53:18,512
this chart, that's
tattooed on a man's back,

897
00:53:18,512 --> 00:53:21,139
tells me, we have an
option to go this way."

898
00:53:23,642 --> 00:53:25,477
— The world works in many different ways.

899
00:53:28,188 --> 00:53:30,315
Next one is the art of medicine.

900
00:53:38,198 --> 00:53:41,701
All the plants have their
own medicinal purpose,

901
00:53:41,701 --> 00:53:42,786
everything.

902
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:53,129
So if I have to go into
the forest to get a plant,

903
00:53:54,589 --> 00:53:56,716
then I must acknowledge the forest,

904
00:53:56,716 --> 00:53:58,760
and ask for permission to go in.

905
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,971
Then when I do find the plant that I need,

906
00:54:00,971 --> 00:54:04,808
I'll also ask that plant, "Can I have you?

907
00:54:04,808 --> 00:54:06,518
And the reason why I need you."

908
00:54:06,518 --> 00:54:10,063
Plus, the leaves tell you,
what are they good for.

909
00:54:10,063 --> 00:54:11,898
It's the shape of your lungs,

910
00:54:11,898 --> 00:54:13,567
the shape of your—

911
00:54:13,567 --> 00:54:15,443
the kawa kawa, shape of your heart.

912
00:54:16,403 --> 00:54:17,779
Then you know it's for your heart.

913
00:54:17,779 --> 00:54:20,282
They've already told us who they are,

914
00:54:20,282 --> 00:54:21,491
and what they're good for.

915
00:54:21,491 --> 00:54:23,743
— We call, I call it the
language of the Ngahere,

916
00:54:23,743 --> 00:54:25,036
the language of the forest.

917
00:54:25,036 --> 00:54:27,080
And when you learn that language,

918
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,583
you can go anywhere in the world.

919
00:54:29,583 --> 00:54:33,044
And you can share in their knowledge.

920
00:54:35,755 --> 00:54:37,591
— The trees have their own feelings,

921
00:54:37,591 --> 00:54:39,718
they have their own
vibration and frequency.

922
00:54:39,718 --> 00:54:41,469
They have their own souls.

923
00:54:41,469 --> 00:54:43,096
Part of the work that I do,

924
00:54:43,096 --> 00:54:46,141
it's about healing our Native.

925
00:54:46,141 --> 00:54:47,767
So we have the kauri.

926
00:54:49,102 --> 00:54:50,770
The kauri is dying,

927
00:54:50,770 --> 00:54:53,356
from this bug that's in the water,

928
00:54:53,356 --> 00:54:54,816
that goes up,

929
00:54:55,901 --> 00:54:58,445
and it goes to the heart of
the tree and kills the tree.

930
00:54:59,988 --> 00:55:02,866
So we have a story, we call it a Pūrākau,

931
00:55:02,866 --> 00:55:05,410
—a Pūrākau is a story,
that's been handed down

932
00:55:05,410 --> 00:55:06,912
through the generations—

933
00:55:06,912 --> 00:55:08,580
where they talk about that the whale,

934
00:55:08,580 --> 00:55:10,165
is a brother to the kauri.

935
00:55:10,165 --> 00:55:13,084
— The kauri, the coat that
was given to the kauri,

936
00:55:13,084 --> 00:55:15,128
this is his coat.

937
00:55:15,128 --> 00:55:17,255
They're exactly the same

938
00:55:17,255 --> 00:55:18,798
as when you look at a whale,

939
00:55:18,798 --> 00:55:20,800
look at a kauri.

940
00:55:27,849 --> 00:55:29,684
— When the kauri became unwell,

941
00:55:31,353 --> 00:55:34,230
the whale could hear
the vibration and frequency,

942
00:55:35,941 --> 00:55:37,567
and tries to come back onto land,

943
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,070
and dies on the land.

944
00:55:41,738 --> 00:55:43,323
I decided,

945
00:55:43,323 --> 00:55:45,200
that if the whale can't get to the kauri,

946
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,243
I will take the whale to the kauri.

947
00:55:55,585 --> 00:55:57,379
And so I began.

948
00:55:57,379 --> 00:55:59,631
I asked for the bones of the whale.

949
00:56:00,715 --> 00:56:02,050
I crushed it up into powder.

950
00:56:03,093 --> 00:56:05,345
Then I asked for the spermaceti,

951
00:56:05,345 --> 00:56:07,931
which is the oil in the head,
which is a healing.

952
00:56:09,182 --> 00:56:10,266
And then I took it,

953
00:56:10,266 --> 00:56:11,810
I cleaned the wound

954
00:56:11,810 --> 00:56:12,978
and then I put it on.

955
00:56:34,582 --> 00:56:36,167
And I sprayed around the tree,

956
00:56:36,167 --> 00:56:39,504
with what we call Kahikātoa or tea tree.

957
00:56:43,758 --> 00:56:45,593
I knew if it kills anything,

958
00:56:45,593 --> 00:56:47,095
that will kill the bug.

959
00:56:48,096 --> 00:56:49,931
So I sprayed around the tree,

960
00:56:50,682 --> 00:56:52,892
and there was one tree
that was really bad.

961
00:57:10,285 --> 00:57:12,579
It was really bad,
I thought it wouldn't survive.

962
00:57:13,747 --> 00:57:15,540
I kept going back to check the trees

963
00:57:15,540 --> 00:57:18,501
and I could see it really
starting to come right,

964
00:57:18,501 --> 00:57:20,045
it started to heal.

965
00:57:28,219 --> 00:57:30,930
But then, people started hearing about it

966
00:57:30,930 --> 00:57:34,142
and started to talk
to some of the scientists

967
00:57:34,768 --> 00:57:37,645
about doing some research
on the Rongoā that I was—

968
00:57:38,897 --> 00:57:40,440
and of course they didn't believe it.

969
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,942
And so one of them checked
the Rongoā that I used,

970
00:57:42,942 --> 00:57:44,527
which was the tea tree,

971
00:57:44,527 --> 00:57:45,945
and they put it against the bug,

972
00:57:45,945 --> 00:57:47,697
and when the tea tree
got close to the bug,

973
00:57:47,697 --> 00:57:49,157
the bug exploded,

974
00:57:50,033 --> 00:57:51,367
and it could kill the bug.

975
00:57:58,917 --> 00:58:00,752
They did a study on the whale,

976
00:58:01,294 --> 00:58:03,004
and they finally realized there is a cure

977
00:58:03,004 --> 00:58:04,214
in the whale bone.

978
00:58:04,964 --> 00:58:06,758
All those trees survived.

979
00:58:06,758 --> 00:58:09,719
The one that was so bad, had a new skin.

980
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:13,473
The old fell off, and the new wood grew.

981
00:58:15,433 --> 00:58:16,810
The government is paying thousands

982
00:58:16,810 --> 00:58:19,395
and millions of dollars for research,

983
00:58:20,688 --> 00:58:22,107
where we do it for nothing.

984
00:58:24,192 --> 00:58:26,986
Because our job is to look after them.

985
00:58:27,987 --> 00:58:30,240
Not going around looking for money.

986
00:58:45,329 --> 00:58:47,843
— Ko te whenua ko au, ko au ko te whenua.

987
00:58:47,882 --> 00:58:50,218
I am the land and the land is me.

988
00:58:50,718 --> 00:58:51,970
We are the land.

989
00:58:52,929 --> 00:58:56,099
Because when we talk about
someone who's pregnant

990
00:58:56,933 --> 00:58:58,685
and the placenta,

991
00:58:58,685 --> 00:59:01,646
the placenta is what we call Te Whenua,

992
00:59:02,647 --> 00:59:03,773
the land.

993
00:59:03,773 --> 00:59:05,316
You come from the placenta,

994
00:59:06,317 --> 00:59:09,279
and then you will come onto the land,

995
00:59:09,279 --> 00:59:11,030
and you'll be taught on that land,

996
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:12,699
and you will die on that land,

997
00:59:12,699 --> 00:59:14,659
and you will return to that land.

998
00:59:42,770 --> 00:59:44,300
— Oh, yeah, look, tightening.

999
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:48,400
Beautiful!

1000
00:59:51,905 --> 00:59:54,908
So part of this is also to
teach the husband, you know,

1001
00:59:54,908 --> 00:59:58,077
you know, it's to empower them to—

1002
00:59:58,077 --> 01:00:00,371
to allow them to have their time

1003
01:00:00,371 --> 01:00:02,248
with the baby too.

1004
01:00:02,248 --> 01:00:04,334
Jarroa has been connecting ever since,

1005
01:00:04,334 --> 01:00:05,627
right from the beginning.

1006
01:00:06,961 --> 01:00:08,421
So comfy, eh?

1007
01:00:10,089 --> 01:00:11,591
And come to the back.

1008
01:00:11,591 --> 01:00:13,218
— You know, he didn't know how to do that.

1009
01:00:13,218 --> 01:00:14,594
I said, "No, you're the papa.

1010
01:00:14,594 --> 01:00:16,346
You know, you knew
how to make the baby."

1011
01:00:16,346 --> 01:00:18,431
Well, you know.

1012
01:00:18,431 --> 01:00:20,350
So and look, he was so happy.

1013
01:00:20,350 --> 01:00:22,143
He said, "I can feel baba!"

1014
01:00:22,143 --> 01:00:23,853
I said, "Here you go!

1015
01:00:23,853 --> 01:00:25,355
Baby will come this weekend."

1016
01:00:27,815 --> 01:00:30,360
You know, it's about
giving back the knowledge.

1017
01:00:30,985 --> 01:00:32,403
And you give it back with integrity,

1018
01:00:32,403 --> 01:00:34,239
so that it stays integral,

1019
01:00:34,239 --> 01:00:37,825
and people are standing
in the mana, with dignity.

1020
01:00:37,825 --> 01:00:39,494
And then you can touch eternity.

1021
01:00:39,494 --> 01:00:41,162
— Yeah, just, yeah.

1022
01:00:42,330 --> 01:00:44,290
Oh, that's good muscle release, eh?

1023
01:00:44,290 --> 01:00:47,085
— Ooooh...
— Yeah

1024
01:00:47,085 --> 01:00:50,296
yeah. So baby is centered.

1025
01:00:50,296 --> 01:00:51,297
Yeah?

1026
01:00:51,297 --> 01:00:53,383
— Before I kinda lost it a little.

1027
01:00:53,383 --> 01:00:55,134
Today was a little bit like...

1028
01:00:55,134 --> 01:00:58,388
just tucked away, yeah,
and I couldn't, kind of,

1029
01:00:58,388 --> 01:00:59,514
it wasn't right.

1030
01:00:59,973 --> 01:01:01,224
— Healing is...

1031
01:01:02,016 --> 01:01:04,227
inter-generational,

1032
01:01:04,227 --> 01:01:07,605
but it's also
multi-generational.

1033
01:01:12,694 --> 01:01:14,362
One of the young women

1034
01:01:14,362 --> 01:01:15,738
was carrying an energy

1035
01:01:15,738 --> 01:01:17,907
that didn't belong to her.

1036
01:01:17,907 --> 01:01:21,452
But it was a tribal energy
and they chose her,

1037
01:01:21,452 --> 01:01:25,123
because she was the one that had...

1038
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,043
the will and the way to carry it,

1039
01:01:29,043 --> 01:01:32,380
even though her mind had blocked

1040
01:01:33,214 --> 01:01:35,341
the reason why she was doing it,

1041
01:02:12,670 --> 01:02:16,466
— Turn to the side. Turn onto your side.

1042
01:02:16,466 --> 01:02:18,551
— When you look at rape

1043
01:02:19,385 --> 01:02:22,096
as something that is passed down,

1044
01:02:22,930 --> 01:02:25,767
there are times when
it comes into my space,

1045
01:02:25,767 --> 01:02:27,060
or when I'm working with women

1046
01:02:27,060 --> 01:02:30,521
and I sense or I know that it's there,

1047
01:02:30,521 --> 01:02:32,357
my job is to stop it,

1048
01:02:32,357 --> 01:02:35,276
so it doesn't go down any further.

1049
01:02:38,946 --> 01:02:40,406
— I can't breathe.

1050
01:02:42,784 --> 01:02:45,370
— You can breathe.

1051
01:02:46,454 --> 01:02:49,999
— In terms of the
inter-generational,

1052
01:02:49,999 --> 01:02:51,209
I see it

1053
01:02:52,460 --> 01:02:54,587
come in at a time frame,

1054
01:02:54,587 --> 01:02:57,382
maybe two or three elders past.

1055
01:02:58,257 --> 01:03:00,176
And if we can take people back

1056
01:03:00,176 --> 01:03:02,887
to just beyond that time frame,

1057
01:03:02,887 --> 01:03:06,808
and weave that energy and clear it,

1058
01:03:06,808 --> 01:03:09,602
then come back to here now,

1059
01:03:09,602 --> 01:03:12,688
most times it stops it going any further.

1060
01:03:19,153 --> 01:03:21,280
— Slowly breathing down.

1061
01:03:24,492 --> 01:03:26,160
— The work we're taught,

1062
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,247
it is instantaneous,
if the person allows us

1063
01:03:29,247 --> 01:03:31,791
and opens their mind up

1064
01:03:31,791 --> 01:03:33,459
to the possibility.

1065
01:03:34,752 --> 01:03:35,962
— Do you want to sit up?

1066
01:03:35,962 --> 01:03:36,963
— Yeah.

1067
01:03:36,963 --> 01:03:38,339
— I want to give you a big hug.

1068
01:03:45,721 --> 01:03:48,307
— To reconnect to their own

1069
01:03:49,684 --> 01:03:51,853
ancestry, their own ways of being,

1070
01:03:51,853 --> 01:03:54,730
their own culture, their own ceremonies,

1071
01:03:54,730 --> 01:03:57,400
their own chants, their songs,

1072
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,318
all those things that they've—

1073
01:03:59,318 --> 01:04:01,529
a lot of our people have been denied,

1074
01:04:02,655 --> 01:04:03,906
that is healing.

1075
01:06:22,086 --> 01:06:23,588
— The crowd loved that performance

1076
01:06:23,588 --> 01:06:25,548
by our final finalists here,

1077
01:06:25,548 --> 01:06:27,633
the 12th Kapa to take to the stage

1078
01:06:27,633 --> 01:06:29,927
here at the Tamaki Makaurau, the finals,

1079
01:06:29,927 --> 01:06:32,388
of the Te Matatini 2023

1080
01:06:32,388 --> 01:06:36,058
Ngati Whakaue, what a
fantastic performance!

1081
01:06:36,058 --> 01:06:38,227
And there we see their
supporters, as I say,

1082
01:06:38,227 --> 01:06:40,563
proud, and they should
be really, really proud

1083
01:06:40,563 --> 01:06:42,398
of their whanaunga that took to the stage.

1084
01:06:55,077 --> 01:06:56,120
— Many different hats,

1085
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,455
Many different thoughts,

1086
01:06:57,455 --> 01:06:58,956
many different ways;

1087
01:07:00,124 --> 01:07:01,584
only one result,

1088
01:07:03,294 --> 01:07:04,462
and that is to heal.

1089
01:07:06,547 --> 01:07:08,382
— For me, I'm just the conduit, yeah?

1090
01:07:08,382 --> 01:07:09,675
I'm not the healer.

1091
01:07:10,843 --> 01:07:12,845
The person on the table
is actually the healer.

1092
01:07:16,265 --> 01:07:18,100
— It's not our job to fix them.

1093
01:07:18,809 --> 01:07:21,687
Especially, if they're going
to go in the healing realm.

1094
01:07:21,687 --> 01:07:24,357
All we can do is wake them up to freedom,

1095
01:07:24,357 --> 01:07:26,692
and the rest is theirs.

1096
01:07:44,001 --> 01:07:47,046
— You know, the distress
is not an individual thing.

1097
01:07:47,797 --> 01:07:50,299
Neither is the pathway or
the journey through it.

1098
01:07:58,974 --> 01:08:01,018
— I am the living face

1099
01:08:01,018 --> 01:08:03,020
of those who went before me.

1100
01:08:03,604 --> 01:08:07,400
I am simply, at the end
of a very long line

1101
01:08:07,817 --> 01:08:10,820
continuing the work that they began,

1102
01:08:10,820 --> 01:08:13,489
generation upon generation ago.

1103
01:08:15,032 --> 01:08:17,326
— Healing is about existing

1104
01:08:18,452 --> 01:08:20,788
through the highs and lows
of their stories,

1105
01:08:20,788 --> 01:08:23,207
and our relationships with each other,

1106
01:08:23,207 --> 01:08:24,458
with ourselves.

1107
01:08:25,292 --> 01:08:27,336
The good, the bad, the ugly,

1108
01:08:27,336 --> 01:08:30,256
and never being complete.

1109
01:08:31,465 --> 01:08:34,176
And our whole reality

1110
01:08:34,176 --> 01:08:37,346
is about finding ourselves,

1111
01:08:37,346 --> 01:08:40,725
in our journey to arrive
at our final breath.

1112
01:09:11,547 --> 01:09:13,466
— Living is a terminal condition.

1113
01:09:14,300 --> 01:09:16,594
Being alive is a terminal condition.

1114
01:09:16,594 --> 01:09:18,345
Dying is not losing.

1115
01:09:18,345 --> 01:09:20,139
We will all die and we will have

1116
01:09:20,139 --> 01:09:22,433
all contributed along the way.

1117
01:09:22,433 --> 01:09:24,602
So it's not about preventing death,

1118
01:09:24,602 --> 01:09:27,188
it's about enabling life.




